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Post by The Abbster yo !!!!! 248 on Mar 8, 2018 12:47:39 GMT
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They are Pressure votes. We aren't looking to lynch you. Try not to shut down ok, that defence is extremely unhelpful
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Post by Nicki on Mar 8, 2018 13:09:05 GMT
They aren’t exactly pressure votes after the 2nd vote. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, there’s no point in me giving an actual defence when I don’t exactly have one in the first place.
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Post by The Abbster yo !!!!! 248 on Mar 8, 2018 13:16:05 GMT
Then share your reads? If you're content with going down at least give us something to work with haha
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Post by L'Belle on Mar 8, 2018 13:19:04 GMT
Fair enough. Even though I don't agree with the reasoning, I'll just randomvote for now.
[vote] Hypurr
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Post by Nicki on Mar 8, 2018 13:55:22 GMT
I could say my vote isn’t random and that I scumread Flamingo. But y’know what, I’m also scumleaning you (Abby) and Diego. Mostly because, whilst it is true I usually contribute more, you all just followed suit in voting for me instead of giving me a chance to explain.
Also, now that I think about it... Whomever is in the mafia also could have framed both myself and Doof by killing someone they know we’d probably both target. I’m not defending Doof, and by no means am I buddying, but I think that it’s most likely someone else if it isn’t Doof (because I know for a fact it is not me) and it’d be someone who knew that Doof and I would joke about targeting, or straight up target, Alvey. So maybe I should ask Daniel (gp) why he brought up this fact previously.
I won’t retract my vote on Flamingo, but I’m now thinking about Daniel’s behaviour and wondering about my suspicions.
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Post by Glitter on Mar 8, 2018 16:30:49 GMT
I brought it up because I don't like random voting or a lack of discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 18:10:39 GMT
Honestly, I am imagining that Flamingo, DeusPro and bidoof as a mafia team.
Anyway, are you guys hunting for scum or lazy posts? Because by what I can see, the entire reason of this bandwagon, which you call it to be a "pressure" is just that Nicki hadn't much written on her post. That's not scumhunting, that's just "lazyhunting". Furthermore, Abby is the only one I'm seeing that's actually putting reasoning on their vote, although not removing their pressure after getting what he wanted.
Anyway, [Vote] Flamingo
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Post by Flamingo on Mar 8, 2018 18:20:02 GMT
I didn't expect that my vote would lead two other persons to do the same, I just wanted Nicki to post something actually meaningful (besides the "Hrm") so while I understand Nicki's vote, why are you doing the same, Keith? Wouldn't it have been far more intelligent for the mafia to vote for someone inactive? Therefore, why do you consider that we are (well, you are specifically voting for me, even though I was the first one to vote for her) mafia?
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Post by The Abbster yo !!!!! 248 on Mar 8, 2018 18:22:49 GMT
I'd like to clarify that I voted GP on the basic of me scumreading him, and that i still do. If we're theorising partners, it'd be him & L'belle, but that's a hunch not based with much unfortunately
Btw nicki, I never voted you, so idk why you're scumleaning me for following everyone.
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Post by DeusPro on Mar 8, 2018 19:21:06 GMT
I based my vote on Nicki purely on pressure, but I’m leaning town on her. Although I don’t agree with her reads, I can certainly see where she’s coming from. The only thing I was aiming for was, once again, the gathering of information. Abby, Flamingo, and I didn’t “not wait” for you to give an explanation. If anything, I waited to get information on you to be able to move my vote elsewhere.
Speaking of moving my vote randomly elsewhere
[UNVOTE] [VOTE] Bidoof
Let’s see if we can get a world out of Doof.
And now onto my reads. I have an inno lean on Abby, because what I’ve seen him do isn’t out of the ordinary for D1 behavior.
I have a leaning slightly scum on GP, because quite literally the only thing randomvoting is doing is starting conversations. Would this whole conversation have started if no one randomvoted? I don’t think so. I think this thread would be pretty quiet D1 unless people randomvoted. With this, it seems like GP is actually trying to stifle discussion instead of encouraging it.
On Flamingo, I can’t really make a judgement. As long as I’ve known him, he’s been pretty unpredictable, and I’m not 100% sure if this translates to mafia or not yet, so I’m holding off on making a read on him right now.
I also can’t make a read on Keith rn. He’s been pretty agressive, but I’m not seeing anything scummy or townie yet.
I’ll make a couple more reads as the game progresses.
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Post by Flamingo on Mar 8, 2018 21:41:27 GMT
I'll change my vote. I don't think that Nicki is mafia, so I'll just randomvote for someone inactive.
[UNVOTE] Nicki [VOTE] Desox
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Post by Johnny on Mar 8, 2018 21:47:15 GMT
I think GP's reasoning is more than fair for D1. This makes me wanna vote L'Belle because it's a common tactic for mafia to oppose to every lynch without offering any alternatives, knowing that at the end of the day the lynchee will flip as inno and appear innocent in the eyes of the town.
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Post by Glitter on Mar 8, 2018 22:12:03 GMT
DeusPro, The Abbster yo !!!!! 248, You've been out for a while, but it's pretty common knowledge that I despise random voting. It's just so easy for mafia to manipulate that situation or to slip through cracks that the information you might gather very rarely actually comes to the forefront. It's better to find a reason to get an actual discussion going because random voting more often than not just leads to more "random" voting. You're basically scumreading me for playing typical of myself.
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Post by The Abbster yo !!!!! 248 on Mar 9, 2018 2:25:52 GMT
But random voting isn't going to be our permanent votes haha.
We have 12 hours, some of us haven't even talked. Let's just decide on someone we actually wanna lynch. I've stuck my vote out for GP, who do you want?
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Post by Johnny on Mar 9, 2018 2:26:54 GMT
I don't get his aversion to random voting either.
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Post by Bidoof on Mar 9, 2018 4:31:25 GMT
[Unvote] Nicki Well I got what I wanted out of that.
I think the whole "i think x player would n0 x player" train is honestly so dumb considering so many people have different lines of thought for their n0 kill. Any explanation I could possibly give on the subject is just WIFOM and are you really surprised Alvey is n0'd when he's been leading games for like a month and a half? he's #1 on the leaderboard because he's a threat, not because he's lucky.
Anyways, I want to agree with Sparkin about the lazypost thing, however I notice I'm guilty of it myself. I feel like I haven't really been playing up to par lately so I guess I'm going to take this game as a refresher/learning experience. With that in mind I think I'm going to completely retract any townsided reads I had on Deus and flip it around to scum. It might be bad for me to be wishy-washy like this but his latest post bothers me. Some people like randomvoting as it has actually been somewhat productive today, and others have seen the degenerate random garbage it can become and don't like it for that reason. I think Gimmepie's reasoning is fair but he is going a bit overboard with it I think. Deus's post in general gives me a weird vibe, he doesn't post anything about me other than "I want him to talk" but posts a whole list of reads for other players. Why me specifically? Why not pressure the person you just said was acting incredibly erratic? Also, what exactly about Keith do you find aggresive? Because, honestly, I feel like you are doing the exact same thing as him but he's posting more reasoning for his actions.
So, [Vote] Deuspro
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Post by Flamingo on Mar 9, 2018 8:23:42 GMT
I don't want to piggyback on this vote (my vote probably won't change, and I say only probably), but I too have to ask Deus why didn't he target me instead of Bidoof. I know that this is a pressure vote, but why wouldn't you try to take something out of me, who you consider to be "unpredictable"?
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Post by Glitter on Mar 9, 2018 11:08:55 GMT
Like I said really, I don't hold true to a "probable targets" approach as something that will work every time, but it's a place to start discussion that doesn't have a chance (or has less of one) of turning into a chain of random, discussionless votes.
[unvote] Bidoof
I really liked that last post of his. Great analysis and a fair point about Diego. Gonna follow along on that one for the time being.
[vote] DeusPro
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Post by DeusPro on Mar 9, 2018 13:00:07 GMT
If you want a vote on the erratic person, that’s what you’ll get.
[UNVOTE] [VOTE] Flamingo
Note: my activity will be erratic over the next week, as I’ll be in Taiwan until next Sunday.
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Post by The Abbster yo !!!!! 248 on Mar 9, 2018 13:16:30 GMT
Important question, what fighting types does hau have
I'm keeping my vote btw, still confident i this
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Post by Flamingo on Mar 9, 2018 16:06:03 GMT
That's a slightly better vote. Well then, I should probably fear for my life, as the majority vote is about to get me lynched. I'm scared of voting for Deus, because (while Bidoof's reasoning made sense) if this lynching ends up with a town member dead then it'll be a waste of time.
I also don't want someone to say that I'm mafia for entering this bandwagon, but I suppose that it won't happen.
...Actually, you know what? Screw it.
[VOTE] DeusPro
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Post by Bardothren on Mar 9, 2018 17:50:40 GMT
Alright, time's up.
The Day Phase is now over.
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Post by Bardothren on Mar 9, 2018 18:10:33 GMT
Team Skull's Vacation
Night One
Though everyone knew the Brats had invaded their island paradise, the Grunts didn't know how to handle the situation. Some sat on the sidelines, watching, while others went back and forth, debating who to throw into the ocean. In the end, the votes were scattered like a newspaper thrown to the wind, and votes settled equally on two people present: DeusPro and Flamingo. Guzma didn't know which one he thought more suspicious, so he took out a coin.
"Heads, Deus gets dunked. Tails, we'll see if Flamingos can swim."
The coin spun in the air and hit the ground with a clatter. The face of some long-dead king of Alola stared up at the crowd.
"Deus it is. Grab him!"
DeusPro, better known as Hau, called out his Decidueye. Although it was far stronger in level than anything Team Skull had, the Grunts' pokemon swarmed it and brought it down. After stealing half his money, the Grunts threw him in the ocean. He washed up several hours later in front of a Pokemon Center. Nanu stood over him and said, "I expected more out of the grandson of a fellow Kahuna."
24 hours remain in this Night Phase.
DeusPro has been kicked off the island. He was Hau.
Rules
Shit man, what do you think this is, fifth grade? Ugh, fine, we gotta have some rules.
- If you want someone gone, say something like [Vote] player or [Lynch] player. Heck' I'll even take [Feed Bardburger] Johnny.
- Abstaining is not allowed, because abstaining is for wimps.
- Missing a vote or Night Action two times in a row is weak, and you will get thrown off the island for it.
- Once you get kicked out, you'll get one post to share your last words. If I see you after that, I'll make you regret it. Oh, and no giving anything important away, ya hear? Nobody likes a cheater.
- Having a private chat with anybody about this game without my permission will get you shipped to Kanto in a barrel, with a dozen hungry Wimpod. No sharing any private messages either.
- No posting at night. Some people gotta get their sleep, yeah?
- If there's a tie, I decide who gets kicked out. If I'm not around, Plumeria will do it. And if neither of us... just flip a damn coin.
- If you wanna get something done at the night, you need the mod's permission. Drop him a PM, and he'll let you out of your room. Don't ask me why this is a thing.
Player List
Bardothren as Nanu, Kahuna of Ula'ula Island.
DeusPro as Hau. Flamingo Abby Zoska Bidoof
Aeternum as a Team Skull Grunt. Keith gimmepie Desox Nicki L'Belle kiyotaka ishimaru Hypurr Johnny garlicbread
mfw I get the roles mixed up ;(
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Post by Bardothren on Mar 9, 2018 18:13:14 GMT
Also, in other news, Zoska has asked to step out of the game. She has been replaced by Pecilia.
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Post by Bardothren on Mar 11, 2018 5:45:36 GMT
Night phase is over.
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Post by Bardothren on Mar 11, 2018 5:48:38 GMT
Team Skull's Vacation
Day Two
Last Night seemed a bit long... I blame Daylight Saving's Time. Anyways, gimmepie was found in a nearby Pokemon Center with multiple burn wounds. Whoever beat him in battle was pretty thorough.
48 hours remain in this Day Phase.
gimmepie has been kicked off the island. He was a Team Skull Grunt.
Rules
Shit man, what do you think this is, fifth grade? Ugh, fine, we gotta have some rules.
- If you want someone gone, say something like [Vote] player or [Lynch] player. Heck' I'll even take [Feed Bardburger] Johnny.
- Abstaining is not allowed, because abstaining is for wimps.
- Missing a vote or Night Action two times in a row is weak, and you will get thrown off the island for it.
- Once you get kicked out, you'll get one post to share your last words. If I see you after that, I'll make you regret it. Oh, and no giving anything important away, ya hear? Nobody likes a cheater.
- Having a private chat with anybody about this game without my permission will get you shipped to Kanto in a barrel, with a dozen hungry Wimpod. No sharing any private messages either.
- No posting at night. Some people gotta get their sleep, yeah?
- If there's a tie, I decide who gets kicked out. If I'm not around, Plumeria will do it. And if neither of us... just flip a damn coin.
- If you wanna get something done at the night, you need the mod's permission. Drop him a PM, and he'll let you out of your room. Don't ask me why this is a thing.
Player List
Bardothren as Nanu, Kahuna of Ula'ula Island.
DeusPro as Hau. Flamingo Abby
Zoska, replaced by Pecilia Pecilia Bidoof
Aeternum as a Team Skull Grunt. Keith
gimmepie as a Team Skull Grunt. Desox Nicki L'Belle kiyotaka ishimaru Hypurr Johnny garlicbread
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Post by Flamingo on Mar 11, 2018 5:53:31 GMT
Now I feel sorry for thinking that gimmepie could have been mafia. Anyways, let's start right away, right?
Right now, I'm pretty suspicious about Keith, as he voted for me even though Deus or Bidoof could have been much more rational options. He either: a) knew that Deus was mafia and didn't vote for Bidoof because Nicki had already voted for me, or b) voted for me because he sincerely thought that I was the best option to lynch, in which case, well then.
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Post by kiyotakaishimaru on Mar 11, 2018 5:58:38 GMT
Good afternoon, I was initially planning to remain inactive until I found the other member of the mafia (aside from Godfather), but considering that Deus got lynched and he flipped Strongman, I have no risk of revealing myself anymore.
If it wasn't clear, I'm Guzma, apparently smart enough to investigate his goons, and I found mafia on N0. Because of my fixation on mods,, I investigated Johnny and he turns out be an Annoying Brat.
I also investigated Abby last night, but that's not really useful because everyone else would appear Team Skull anyway, though I think Abby could be an Annoying Brat rl jk.
So well then [Vote] Johnny
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Post by Flamingo on Mar 11, 2018 6:02:35 GMT
Oh, well then. This will be an easy lynching then.
[VOTE] Johnny
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Post by Bidoof on Mar 11, 2018 6:23:43 GMT
Hm,
[Vote] Johnny
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